bill clinton is being used in pennsylvania on monday. it tells me that you all are a little worried about that or worried about the race in general. are you saying no? >> no. i think, look. i think, candy. ready? it's a close election. b, you nail everything down. i think pennsylvania is secure but you don't take anything for granted and that means there's going to be a lot of people going back to ohio in the next 96 hours. multiple times they'll go to pennsylvania. but pennsylvania is going to be on both the philadelphia, the surrounding counties and pittsburgh and harrisburg, that's where you have a democratic vote and you do go to secure it. but that doesn't mean it's flipping. it just means the natural tiding of a race. >> let's bring in candy. if they're spending a lot of time in pennsylvania at this late stage, it suggests to me they're worried. >> it did to me and it's about the fourth time i put this question to him because he veers off nicely into talking points. the fact is that the romney people went in there for a couple of r